WDPS31 PGTW 151500 MSGID/GENADMIN/JOINT TYPHOON WRNCEN PEARL HARBOR HI// SUBJ/PROGNOSTIC REASONING FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE 08P (EIGHT) WARNING NR 005// RMKS/ 1. FOR METEOROLOGISTS. 2. 6 HOUR SUMMARY AND ANALYSIS. SUMMARY: INITIAL POSITION: 14.8S 171.2E INITIAL INTENSITY: 40 KTS GEOGRAPHIC REFERENCE: 241 NM NORTHEAST OF PORT VILA, VANUATU MOVEMENT PAST 6 HOURS: EAST-SOUTHEASTWARD AT 09 KTS SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHT: 15 FEET SATELLITE ANALYSIS, INITIAL POSITION AND INTENSITY DISCUSSION: ANIMATED ENHANCED INFRARED (EIR) SATELLITE IMAGERY DEPICTS A COMPACT, ASYMMETRIC SYSTEM, WITH AN ELONGATED REGION OF PERSISTENT, BUT NOW WEAKENING, CONVECTION TO THE EAST OF THE ASSESSED LOW LEVEL CIRCULATION CENTER (LLCC). A VERY SMALL REGION OF DEVELOPING CONVECTION APPEARS TO BE DEVELOPING NEAR THE ASSESSED CENTER BUT IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN IF THIS WILL PERSIST. A 150930Z ASCAT-B PASS REVEALED A VERY SMALL LLCC AND A HIGHLY ASYMMETRIC WIND FIELD, WITH 30-35 KNOT WINDS RESTRICTED TO AN ARC ON THE EASTERN FLANK OF THE CIRCULATION. THE ACCOMPANYING MHS 89GHZ MICROWAVE IMAGE REVEALED A DISORGANIZED AREA OF CONVECTION DISPLACED TO THE EAST OF THE LLCC, WHICH BASED ON THE LATEST EIR IMAGERY APPEARS TO BE STRETCHING OUT ALONG A NORTHWEST-SOUTHEAST AXIS. THE INITIAL POSITION IS ASSESSED WITH MEDIUM CONFIDENCE BASED ON AN EXTRAPOLATION OF THE LLCC SEEN IN THE SCATTEROMETER PASS. THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS ASSESSED WITH MEDIUM CONFIDENCE BASED ON A BLEND OF THE OBJECTIVE AND SUBJECTIVE INTENSITY ESTIMATES NOTED BELOW. THE ENVIRONMENT REMAINS MARGINALLY FAVORABLE, WITH MODERATE NORTHWESTERLY SHEAR OFFSETTING THE STRONG POLEWARD OUTFLOW AND WARM SSTS. INITIAL WIND RADII BASIS: SCATTEROMETER DATA CURRENT STEERING MECHANISM: SOUTHWESTERN PERIPHERY OF A DEEP-LAYER NEAR EQUATORIAL RIDGE (NER) POSITIONED EAST-WEST ALONG THE 10S LATITUDE LINE. AGENCY DVORAK AND AUTOMATED FIXES: PGTW: T3.0 - 45 KTS KNES: T3.0 - 45 KTS PHFO: T3.0 - 45 KTS CIMSS ADT: 55 KTS AT 151130Z CIMSS AIDT: 42 KTS AT 151200Z CIMSS D-MINT: 35 KTS AT 150909Z CIMSS D-PRINT: 42 KTS AT 151210Z FORECASTER ASSESSMENT OF CURRENT ENVIRONMENT: MARGINALLY FAVORABLE VWS: 15-20 KTS SST: 28-29 CELSIUS OUTFLOW: STRONG POLEWARD ANALYSIS CONFIDENCE: INITIAL POSITION: MEDIUM INITIAL INTENSITY: MEDIUM INITIAL WIND RADII: MEDIUM 3. FORECAST REASONING. SIGNIFICANT FORECAST CHANGES: THE FORECAST HAS BEEN TRUNCATED TO 72 HOURS. FORECAST DISCUSSION: TROPICAL CYCLONE (TC) 08P (EIGHT) HAS, AS EXPECTED, STEADILY TURNED FROM A SOUTHEASTWARD TO A MORE EASTWARD TRAJECTORY OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST DAY, AS IT MOVES UNDER THE BUILDING RIDGE TO THE NORTH. WHILE THE OVERALL TRACK DIRECTION IS NOT MUCH IN DOUBT IN THE SHORT-TERM, THE SPEED OF ADVANCE IS VERY MUCH IN DOUBT. TRACK MODELS ARE BROKEN INTO TWO DISTINCT CAMPS, WITH THE EUROPEAN MODELS (ECMWF, EGRR, ECEPS) DEVELOPING A VERY WEAK SYSTEM WHICH RESULTS IN A WEAK STEERING GRADIENT AND A VERY SLOW COURSE TOWARDS THE EAST, ONE WHICH NEVER EVEN REACHES FIJI. THE U.S. MODELS (GFS, GEFS, AND THE MESOSCALE MODELS) ON THE OTHER HAND DEVELOP A MUCH STRONGER SYSTEM, WITH A CORRESPONDINGLY STRONGER STEERING GRADIENT, RESULTING IN A MUCH FASTER EASTWARD TRACK, WHICH PASS SOUTH OF AMERICAN SAMOA BEFORE TURNING POLEWARD. A LOT DEPENDS ON HOW THE MODELS ARE INITIALIZING, AND IT APPEARS THAT NEITHER THE GFS NOR THE ECMWF ARE DOING A GOOD JOB ON THIS FRONT. THE GFS IS TOO STRONG AND SYMMETRICAL COMPARED TO THE SCATTEROMETER, WHILE THE ECMWF IS TOO WEAK. WITH SO MUCH UNCERTAINTY, THE FORECAST IS RELYING ON CONSISTENCY AND PERSISTENCE, WALKING BACK A BIT FROM THE MORE AGGRESSIVE GFS SOLUTIONS, BUT ALSO MOVING FAR OUT IN FRONT OF THE EUROPEAN MODEL SOLUTIONS. IN TERMS OF INTENSITY, AGAIN ITS A TALE OF TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT OUTCOMES. THE EUROPEAN MODELS, BEING SLOWER, BRING THE SYSTEM UNDER A JET STREAM EARLY IN THE FORECAST, WHICH KILLS THE SYSTEM WITHIN 24 TO 36 HOURS. IN THE GFS SOLUTION, THIS PROCESS IS DELAYED UNTIL TAU 36 TO TAU 48. IF THE SYSTEM DOES MOVE OUT TO THE EAST AS EXPECTED, THEN IT WILL HAVE A SHORT WINDOW OF MARGINALLY FAVORABLE CONDITIONS, WHERE IT COULD INTENSIFY A BIT, BEFORE IT IS HAMMERED BY INCREASED SHEAR AND DRY AIR, WHICH WILL LEAD TO ITS DEMISE BY TAU 72. MODEL DISCUSSION: AS BRIEFLY OUTLINED ABOVE, DETERMINISTIC MODELS ARE SPLIT, WITH ROUGHLY HALF THE CONSENSUS KEEPING THE SYSTEM WEST OF FIJI THROUGH TAU 72, WHILE THE OTHER HALF TRACKS SOUTH OF AMERICAN SAMOA BEFORE TURNING POLEWARD AFTER TAU 72. THE JTWC FORECAST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GEFS MEAN UNTIL TAU 36, THEN FOLLOWS THE GEFS DIRECTION BUT LAGS BEHIND BY ABOUT 100NM BY THE END OF THE FORECAST. CONFIDENCE IS LOW DUE TO THE ALONG-TRACK BIFURCATION IN THE GUIDANCE. INTENSITY GUIDANCE IS IN BETTER SHAPE, WITH ALL MODELS IN AGREEMENT THAT THE SYSTEM WILL LIKELY INTENSIFY BETWEEN 5-15 KNOTS BY TAU 24, THEN STEADILY WEAKEN THEREAFTER. THE JTWC FORECAST IS PLACED CLOSE TO THE CONSENSUS MEAN THROUGH THE FORECAST PERIOD, WITH LOW CONFIDENCE. FORECAST CONFIDENCE: TRACK 00-72 HR: LOW INTENSITY 00-72 HR: LOW// NNNN