WDPN32 PGTW 241500 MSGID/GENADMIN/JOINT TYPHOON WRNCEN PEARL HARBOR HI// SUBJ/PROGNOSTIC REASONING FOR TROPICAL DEPRESSION 08W (HIGOS) WARNING NR 009// RMKS/ 1. FOR METEOROLOGISTS. 2. 6 HOUR SUMMARY AND ANALYSIS. SUMMARY: INITIAL POSITION: 16.3N 139.7E INITIAL INTENSITY: 30 KTS GEOGRAPHIC REFERENCE: 903 NM SOUTHEAST OF KADENA AB MOVEMENT PAST 6 HOURS: WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT 12 KTS SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHT: 14 FEET SATELLITE ANALYSIS, INITIAL POSITION AND INTENSITY DISCUSSION: ANIMATED ENHANCED INFRARED (EIR) SATELLITE IMAGERY DEPICTS TROPICAL DEPRESSION 08W (HIGOS) WITH DISORGANIZED FLARING CONVECTION OBSCURING A COMPACT LOW-LEVEL CIRCULATION CENTER (LLCC). THE INITIAL POSITION IS PLACED WITH LOW CONFIDENCE DUE TO THE LACK OF RECENT OCEAN SURFACE VECTOR WIND DATA AND THE OBSCURED NATURE OF THE LLCC. THE INITIAL INTENSITY OF 30 KTS IS ASSESSED WITH MEDIUM CONFIDENCE BASED ON THE AGENCY DVORAK ESTIMATES OF T2.0-T2.5. THE CIMSS ADT AND AIDT ARE ANALYZED TO BE CURRENTLY OVERESTIMATING THE INTENSITY OF THE SYSTEM. ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS INDICATES THAT 08W IS IN A MARGINAL ENVIRONMENT CHARACTERIZED BY WEAK OUTFLOW ALOFT, DRY AIR OVER THE WESTERN PERIPHERY, LOW (10-15 KTS) SOUTHEASTERLY VERTICAL WIND SHEAR, AND WARM (29-30 C) SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES. INITIAL WIND RADII BASIS: NOT APPLICABLE (THERE ARE NO INITIAL WIND RADII). CURRENT STEERING MECHANISM: THE SOUTHWESTERN PERIPHERY OF A SUBTROPICAL RIDGE (STR) POSITIONED TO THE NORTHEAST AGENCY DVORAK AND AUTOMATED FIXES: PGTW: T2.0 - 30 KTS RJTD: T2.5 - 35 KTS RCTP: T2.5 - 35 KTS KNES: T2.0 - 30 KTS CIMSS ADT: 45 KTS AT 241200Z CIMSS AIDT: 40 KTS AT 241200Z CIMSS D-MINT: 26 KTS AT 240808Z CIMSS D-PRINT: 32 KTS AT 241200Z FORECASTER ASSESSMENT OF CURRENT ENVIRONMENT: MARGINAL VWS: 10-15 KTS SST: 29-30 CELSIUS OUTFLOW: WEAK POLEWARD OTHER FACTORS: DRY AIR ENTRAINMENT FROM THE WEST ANALYSIS CONFIDENCE: INITIAL POSITION: LOW INITIAL INTENSITY: MEDIUM INITIAL WIND RADII: NOT APPLICABLE 3. FORECAST REASONING. SIGNIFICANT FORECAST CHANGES: THERE ARE NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE FORECAST FROM THE PREVIOUS WARNING. FORECAST DISCUSSION: TD 08W IS FORECAST TO TRACK NORTHWESTWARD, ALONG THE SOUTHWESTERN PERIPHERY OF THE STR THROUGH TAU 24. NEAR TAU 24, THE SYSTEM WILL TURN NORTHWARD AS IT BEGINS TO ROUND THE WESTERN EXTENT OF THE STR. 08W WILL THEN BEGIN TO INTERACT WITH THE WIND FIELD OF THE MUCH LARGER TY 07W (MEKKHALA) AROUND TAU 36. AS 08W CONTINUES ON A POLEWARD TRACK, THE TWO SYSTEMS WILL CLOSE IN ON EACH OTHER. IT IS NOT CLEAR WHETHER THE BINARY INTERACTION WILL RESULT IN A MERGE, OR SIMPLY A DISSIPATION OF 08W WITHIN THE OUTER EDGE OF THE WIND FIELD OF 07W. THE DISTANCE OF THE TWO VORTICIES WILL LIKELY BE THE PRIMARY FACTOR IN DETERMINING THE FATE OF 08W. IF THE DISTANCE IS CLOSER, A COMPLETE MERGE IS MORE LIKELY. EVEN IF A MERGE DOES NOT OCCUR, 08W IS EXPECTED TO OPEN UP INTO A WAVE AND BECOME UNTRACKABLE. THE TIMING OF THE INTERACTION AND POTENTIAL MERGE REMAINS UNCERTAIN DUE TO THE RELIANCE ON THE TRANSLATION SPEED OF BOTH 08W AND 07W. AS IT STANDS, THE DISSIPATION OF 08W IS FORECAST TO OCCUR NEAR TAU 60, SOUTH OF HONSHU. THERE STILL REMAINS A POSSIBILITY THAT 08W OUTRUNS 07W AND RECURVES BEFORE ENOUGH INTERACTION WITH 07W OCCURS, BUT THAT SCENARIO IS NOW ANALYZED TO BE LESS LIKELY. IN TERMS OF INTENSITY, 08W IS FORECAST TO MAINTAIN A STEADY INTENSITY OR MARGINALLY INTENSIFY OVER THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS THE VORTEX ATTEMPTS TO AXISYMMETRIZE. THE INTERACTION WITH 07W WILL ALSO INHIBIT ANY SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT. MODEL DISCUSSION: NUMERICAL MODEL TRACK GUIDANCE IS IN MODERATE AGREEMENT THROUGH TAU 36 WITH MODELS GENERALLY AGREEING ON A NORTHWESTWARD TRACK FOLLOWED BY A NORTHWARD TURN. HOWEVER, AFTER TAU 36, THERE IS SIGNIFICANT VARIATION BETWEEN MODELS. SOME MODELS LOSE THE VORTEX AT TAU 48 FURTHER TO THE WEST, NEAR MINAMI DAITO JIMA, WHILE OTHERS ATTEMPT TO TURN THE SYSTEM NORTHEASTWARD. THE JTWC TRACK FORECAST IS PLACED NEAR THE CONSENSUS THROUGH TAU 36, THEN CLOSER TO THE GFS THROUGH TU 60 WITH LOW CONFIDENCE. INTENSITY GUIDANCE IS POOR AGREEMENT WITH HWRF AND COAMPS-TC BEING THE TWO AGGRESSIVE OUTLIERS, SUGGESTING A PEAK OF AROUND 55 KTS. ON THE OTHER HAND, THE HAFS-A AND GFS BOTH SHOW BORDERLINE TROPICAL STORM STRENGTH THROUGH TAU 60. THE JTWC INTENSITY FORECAST IS PLACED CLOSER TO THE LATTER GROUPING WITH LOW CONFIDENCE DUE TO THE INHERENT UNCERTAINTY REVOLVING AROUND THE MERGE WITH 07W. FORECAST CONFIDENCE: TRACK 00-72 HR: LOW INTENSITY 00-72 HR: LOW// NNNN