WDPS31 PGTW 141500 MSGID/GENADMIN/JOINT TYPHOON WRNCEN PEARL HARBOR HI// SUBJ/PROGNOSTIC REASONING FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE 08P (EIGHT) WARNING NR 001// RMKS/ 1. FOR METEOROLOGISTS. 2. 6 HOUR SUMMARY AND ANALYSIS. SUMMARY: INITIAL POSITION: 12.9S 168.9E INITIAL INTENSITY: 40 KTS GEOGRAPHIC REFERENCE: 290 NM NORTH OF PORT VILA, VANUATU MOVEMENT PAST 6 HOURS: SOUTHEASTWARD AT 07 KTS SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHT: 14 FEET SATELLITE ANALYSIS, INITIAL POSITION AND INTENSITY DISCUSSION: ANIMATED ENHANCED INFRARED (EIR) SATELLITE IMAGERY DEPICTS A COMPACT AND ASYMMETRIC CENTRAL DENSE OVERCAST (CDO) FEATURE. THE CDO HAS WARMED SIGNIFICANTLY OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF HOURS, AFTER HAVING REACHED ITS ZENITH ABOUT FOUR HOURS AGO. ANIMATED SHORTWAVE INFRARED (SWIR) SHOWS SOME HINTS OF THE OUTER LOW-LEVEL BANDS TO THE NORTH OF VANUATU, WHICH ALIGNS REASONABLY WELL WITH A 141028Z MHS 89GHZ MICROWAVE IMAGE WHICH SHOWED THE LOW LEVEL CIRCULATION CENTER (LLCC) TO BE DISPLACED WEST OF THE CDO FEATURE. THE LAST SOUNDING FROM PORT VILA, VANUATU (0000Z) INDICATED STRONG WINDS AT THE 300MB LEVEL PUSHING IN FROM THE WEST, WHICH IS AT ODDS WITH THE MODEL DERIVED SOUNDINGS, BUT WOULD MAKE SENSE COMPARED TO THE SATELLITE DEPICTION. THE INITIAL POSITION IS ASSESSED WITH LOW CONFIDENCE DUE TO THE LACK OF A TRACKABLE LLCC IN THE EIR AND LOW-RESOLUTION IMAGERY FROM THE MHS SENSOR. THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS ASSESSED WITH MEDIUM CONFIDENCE BASED ON THE TWO T3.0 (45 KNOTS) DVORAK CURRENT INTENSITY ESTIMATES FROM PGTW AND KNES, AND A SIMILAR ESTIMATE FROM THE CIMSS D-PRINT. ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ARE GENERALLY FAVORABLE, WITH LOW DEEP-LAYER SHEAR, WARM SSTS AND STRONG POLEWARD OUTFLOW. INITIAL WIND RADII BASIS: OTHER CURRENT STEERING MECHANISM: WESTERN PERIPHERY OF A DEEP-LAYER NEAR EQUATORIAL RIDGE (NER) CENTERED NEAR WESTERN SAMOA. AGENCY DVORAK AND AUTOMATED FIXES: PGTW: T3.0 - 45 KTS KNES: T3.0 - 45 KTS CIMSS D-PRINT: 44 KTS AT 141200Z FORECASTER ASSESSMENT OF CURRENT ENVIRONMENT: FAVORABLE VWS: 5-10 KTS SST: 29-30 CELSIUS OUTFLOW: STRONG POLEWARD OTHER FACTORS: MID-LEVEL WESTERLY SHEAR ANALYSIS CONFIDENCE: INITIAL POSITION: LOW INITIAL INTENSITY: MEDIUM INITIAL WIND RADII: LOW 3. FORECAST REASONING. SIGNIFICANT FORECAST CHANGES: THIS INITIAL PROGNOSTIC REASONING MESSAGE ESTABLISHES THE FORECAST PHILOSOPHY. FORECAST DISCUSSION: TROPICAL CYCLONE (TC) 08P (EIGHT) HAS TRACKED SOUTHEASTWARD ALONG THE WESTERN SIDE OF A DEEP-LAYER, EAST-WEST ORIENTED NER, CENTERED NEAR WESTERN SAMOA, FOR THE PAST DAY OR SO. THIS GENERAL MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT 12-18 HOURS BEFORE THE SYSTEM GRADUALLY TURNS ONTO A MORE EASTWARD TRAJECTORY AS THE RIDGE MOVES NORTH AND ELONGATES TOWARDS THE WEST. TC 08P WILL TRACK EAST ALONG THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THIS RIDGE THROUGH TAU 96, AND THEN AS IT WEAKENS AND COMES UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF THE LOWER-LEVEL STEERING FLOW, TURNS SOUTHEASTWARD BY THE END OF THE FORECAST PERIOD. IN TERMS OF INTENSITY, THE MAIN HINDRANCE IN THE NEAR-TERM WILL BE THE ASYMMETRIC NATURE OF THE VORTEX, BROUGHT ON THE MODERATE TO HIGH MID-LEVEL WESTERLY SHEAR. THE MODELS ARE NOT HANDLING THIS SYSTEM WELL AT ALL, AND THUS THE FORECAST OF THE SHEAR AND THE RESULTING TIMING OF VORTEX ALIGNMENT IS HIGHLY UNCERTAIN. ASSUMING THE BEST-CASE SCENARIO AS DEPICTED BY THE GFS, DEEP-LAYER SHEAR SHOULD REMAIN LOW, WHILE MID-LEVEL SHEAR DECREASES SHARPLY, ALLOWING THE VORTEX TO SYMMETRIZE IN SHORT ORDER. IF THIS SCENARIO PLAYS OUT, THE SYSTEM SHOULD STEADILY INTENSIFY OVER THE NEXT 36 TO 48 HOURS. AFTER TAU 48, THE SYSTEM MOVES CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE JET STREAM TO THE SOUTH TO FEEL AN INCREASE IN SHEAR, WHICH WILL OFFSET THE ROBUST OUTFLOW INTO THE JET MAX AND WILL BEGIN TO RAPIDLY WEAKEN THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE FORECAST PERIOD. TC 08P IS FORECAST TO DISSIPATE BY TAU 120, SOUTHWEST OF AMERICAN SAMOA. MODEL DISCUSSION: DETERMINISTIC MODELS ARE IN POOR AGREEMENT, WITH THE PRIMARY GLOBAL MODELS (ECMWF AND GFS) HANDLING THE SYSTEM IN DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT WAYS. THE GFS DEVELOPS A STRONG TC AND THUS STRENGTHENING THE STEERING GRADIENT, IS ALSO THE FASTEST MOVER, TAKING THE SYSTEM WELL TO THE SOUTHEAST OF AMERICAN SAMOA BY TAU 120. MEANWHILE, THE ECMWF AND NAVGEM DEPICT A VERY WEAK CIRCULATION AND ARE MORE INCLINED TO FOLLOW THE LOW-LEVEL FLOW WHICH TAKES THE SYSTEM VERY SLOWLY SOUTHEASTWARD THEN TURNS THE WEAK VORTEX NORTHWARD AFTER TAU 48, NEVER PUSHING EAST OF THE 174E LONGITUDE LINE. THE RESULTING ALONG-TRACK SPREAD EXCEEDS 1200NM. THE CONSENSUS TRACKER MEANWHILE, BEING PULLED BACK BY THE EXCEEDINGLY SLOW ECMWF AND NAVGEM, IS ROUGHLY POSITIONED ABOUT MIDWAY BETWEEN THE TWO OUTLIERS. DISCARDING THE TWO LAGGARDS RESULTS IN A CONSENSUS MEAN POSITIONED NEAR THE EGRR, GEFS MEAN, AND THE THREE MESOSCALE MODEL TRACKS (CTCX, HAFS-A, HWRF). ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE IS IN FAIRLY GOOD AGREEMENT SURPRISINGLY, WITH A MULTI-MODEL ENSEMBLE MEAN TRACK POSITIONED JUST NORTH OF FIJI AND WELL TO THE SOUTHWEST OF FIJI. THE JTWC TRACK IS PLACED NEAR THE MODIFIED CONSENSUS AND THE GEFS MEAN, WITH MEDIUM CONFIDENCE IN THE LONG-RANGE FORECAST. INTENSITY GUIDANCE IS IN RELATIVELY GOOD AGREEMENT, WITH THE BULK OF THE MEMBERS CONFINED TO AN INTENSITY ENVELOPE BETWEEN 45 AND 55 KNOTS. THE SHIPS-GFS IS THE ONLY HIGH-SIDE OUTLIER, PEAKING AT ABOUT 65 KNOTS. THE JTWC FORECAST IS POSITIONED JUST SLIGHTLY UNDER THE CONSENSUS MEAN THROUGH THE FORECAST PERIOD, WITH MEDIUM CONFIDENCE. FORECAST CONFIDENCE: TRACK 00-72 HR: MEDIUM TRACK 72-120 HR: MEDIUM INTENSITY 00-72 HR: MEDIUM INTENSITY 72-120 HR: MEDIUM// NNNN